Comments on: Closing Statement from Copenhagen — No Legally Binding Agreement http://www.civilianism.com/futurism/?p=3856&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=closing-statement-from-copenhagen-no-legally-binding-agreement Mon, 30 Aug 2010 20:19:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: ShellyT http://www.civilianism.com/futurism/?p=3856&cpage=1#comment-1276 ShellyT Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:35:08 +0000 http://www.civilianism.com/futurism/?p=3856#comment-1276 I've said the same, the world has to stop waiting for the U.S. We just don't have it together enough anymore to be a leader in anything. China is also disappointing. I hope the rest of the world does the leading and shames us into doing what is right and gets rid of this cap and trade idea as being effective. It's slowly becoming less popular and if we could get a few people out of the Congress next year we might pass something better. Meanwhile, all the states need to start making carbon targets and stop waiting for the federal government to do the right thing. I would not advocate focusing on jobs as a way to get public pressure to increase either -- like Nancy Pelosi and some other members of congress do -- I completely disagree with their approach at this point. They need to be honest with people as to what is happening, but they won't do that because they are perpetually worried about their political careers and the denier movement is well funded and well connected. Health is something better to focus on at this time and it appeals to everyone. I have discussed this in my podcast -- which is now at http://www.climatefilesradio.com -- and said we should emphasize that this is a way to appeal to people to stop climate change and dangerously polluting emissions. Everyone, whether they need a job or not, wants to be healthier. I’ve said the same, the world has to stop waiting for the U.S. We just don’t have it together enough anymore to be a leader in anything. China is also disappointing. I hope the rest of the world does the leading and shames us into doing what is right and gets rid of this cap and trade idea as being effective. It’s slowly becoming less popular and if we could get a few people out of the Congress next year we might pass something better. Meanwhile, all the states need to start making carbon targets and stop waiting for the federal government to do the right thing.

I would not advocate focusing on jobs as a way to get public pressure to increase either — like Nancy Pelosi and some other members of congress do — I completely disagree with their approach at this point. They need to be honest with people as to what is happening, but they won’t do that because they are perpetually worried about their political careers and the denier movement is well funded and well connected.

Health is something better to focus on at this time and it appeals to everyone. I have discussed this in my podcast — which is now at http://www.climatefilesradio.com — and said we should emphasize that this is a way to appeal to people to stop climate change and dangerously polluting emissions. Everyone, whether they need a job or not, wants to be healthier.

]]> By: Windroot http://www.civilianism.com/futurism/?p=3856&cpage=1#comment-1273 Windroot Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:46:14 +0000 http://www.civilianism.com/futurism/?p=3856#comment-1273 Never at any time, not once, did I see any proposal being considered in either the House or the Senate that came even close to what the science says is needed. Don't look for it now. As I have said several times on my own blog, the world must get out of the habit of waiting around for the U.S. to lead the way. That ain't gonna happen. China had a chance to step up and they chose instead to stick with their old closed society vision. Will India and Europe finally be the little brothers who step out from the shadow of their older and more powerful siblings to show that meaningful action is possible? I hope so. Certainly Europe is doing its best. As for jobs, jobs, jobs, I think the better focus is on health and clean air and clean water. That approach deals with the forces driving global warming and resonates I think with a larger segment of the political community. Just a thought. Never at any time, not once, did I see any proposal being considered in either the House or the Senate that came even close to what the science says is needed. Don’t look for it now.

As I have said several times on my own blog, the world must get out of the habit of waiting around for the U.S. to lead the way. That ain’t gonna happen. China had a chance to step up and they chose instead to stick with their old closed society vision.

Will India and Europe finally be the little brothers who step out from the shadow of their older and more powerful siblings to show that meaningful action is possible? I hope so. Certainly Europe is doing its best.

As for jobs, jobs, jobs, I think the better focus is on health and clean air and clean water. That approach deals with the forces driving global warming and resonates I think with a larger segment of the political community. Just a thought.

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