What's this odd language, Watts-on? Could it be science-talk or Vegan Overlords?
A crime has been committed by climate deniers. A real crime. Some ‘denialists’, (a group whose beliefs have turned into a cult) have hacked a raw climate data site. Now they are trying to use it to “prove” global warming isn’t based on real science due to the language the scientists used in writing about their data. This is the ultimate nerdy crime but it’s way off base. These are people (all lonely guys, apparently) who think they know more about science than scientists, and are pretending to know more about how scientists talk to each other than scientists. They have just spent a few days gloating about the crime’s supposed revelations. They are gloating about nothing at all.
It all reminds me of that loud, annoying woman from Alaska who said that she can’t believe that loving human beings evolved from fish that sprouted legs, in her new book. Instead of admitting she doesn’t understand the theory, she attacks it as nonsense.
I seem to remember people being smarter, years ago . . . oh well. Below are stories about the hacking story. And they can’t even do it right. Writes a Man with a Ph.D.:
“None of the emails I have seen show anything untoward actually happened. It is only by taking things out of either the context of the email or historical context that anything can be made. In particular, worry anytime you see ellipses (…) in something like this. Quote-mining is what denialists do.
The best response I read in the comments was this, which presents reality that these people need to hear:
#430 Intrigue says: “Does anybody think that this is the only compilation that the hacker has? After this little taste, perhaps another two, or three, or twelve compilations will be presented onto the net. Looking forward to the rest of the chapters, after certain folks have explained their way into a deep hole.”
Another priceless quote from the Watt denier readers (WUWT — google it, I’m not going to link to it) : “Keep it up!!! Holy cow, they are on the ropes now. It won’t be long before the ref stops this fight! As Hunter said, go go go!!!!”
Yeah, holy cow! “It’s about time us regular Joes (the Plumbers) told those scientists a thing or two! After all, there’s more of us dumbf**ers!”
The real story from RealClimate is here. As they point out, the hacking results are more notable for what they didn’t find (a leftist conspiracy) than what they did find (some scientist talk).
“More interesting is what is not contained in the emails. There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, no grand plan to ‘get rid of the MWP’, no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no ‘marching orders’ from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords. The truly paranoid will put this down to the hackers also being in on the plot though.”
RealClimate got one thing wrong: Vegetarians are mainstream. What the Deniers have nightmares about are the vegan overlords.
They correctly point out that global warming isn’t a vast conspiracy funded by… the scientists themselves, or maybe magazines, or maybe George Soros or Al Gore.
The Register, whoever they are, seems to be all about tabloid-style writing.
The Deniers/Denialists are like the 9/11 ‘Truthers’ who claimed that steel can’t possibly be softened or melted by fire (it sure can be, and it was) and that the laws of physics can’t explain buildings fall down “into their own footprint”. Of course buildings can fall that way, and yes according to physics, because they did. Unless it was a magnetic pole-shift, . . . . or Planet X.
Yes, scientists sometimes talk nerdy to each other. The funny part is when the Deniers try to decipher their talk, as though it should all be taken literally, like the word “trick”. That’s like taking the word “gay” literally as written in The Advocate.
It’s time for the cult members to step aside and let scientists tell us what is happening, and what to do about climate change. Denialists are obviously listening to Fox (FAUX) news, which has stepped up appearances by the Deniers and their followers lately.
There is little point in denying that the short term damage from the release of the hacked e-mails is real. Whether the long-term impact will be all that great remains to be seen. Sooner or later people will come to understand the reality of global warming does not depend on what the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit does or does not do or say.
The irony is that the evidence of substantial and accelerating climate change due to anthropogenic global warming just keeps piling up. One thing for sure. I’m going to make damn sure my children and grandchildren know who stood where on this issue so that 30 years down the line they will know the truth.
RealClimate’s take on the whole thing was very good. And as for those holding back action on climate change with their false claims, I think their actions are approaching felonies at this point. So the climate criminals may be pretty infamous by the time the grandchildren start learning history.
George Monbiot’s article deals with the hacked emails. He concludes that they are disturbing but do not shake the science of climate change because they are taken out of context, and vague.
http://tinyurl.com/ye45ccc
Also, no one knows yet for sure they are even authentic. They might be fake, and that’s even likely, since we all know that one particular political party loves to make up things it calls “facts” which are completely fabricated. I will believe the emails are real when the place they were stolen from, or the scientists themselves, say they were real.
If they are real, there is still no reason to think climate change is anything but a serious issue that needs to be solved ASAP because that is still what the info. about it states.
You people are the in total denial. As the global temperatures have leveled and slightly cooled since 1998, CO2 in the atmosphere has steadily increased. When this all shakes out and the alarmists are exposed for the fraud there will be a backlash on a scale not seen before and heads will roll. Then maybe politics will be removed from science.
Here is my response to you, EricTheRed and all climate change deniers. http://www.civilianism.com/futurism/?p=3641
Read it carefully.
Form an educated opinion and then feel free to comment, but only after you have reached the state of consciousness known as “thinking”.