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Claim: Christian Right Is ‘Trolling for Assassins’

It’s amazing that this country’s most hateful people seem to be “religious”, or at least say they are.  There is no adequate denouncement of this behavior by other religious people.  I’m not talking about Islam, either.   I’m not against religious beliefs at all, but I am against racism, hate, war, murder, torture and assassination,  some things this country’s most extremist fundamentalist “Christian” religious people seem to be advocates of.   How can they even call themselves “Christians”?  Unless that religion has changed drastically, they can’t.   This was recently discussed on the Rachel Maddow show and it’s a phenomenon that has not gone unnoticed by people.

Former Evangelist Frank Schaeffer claims:  “There is a crazy fringe [receiving] messages that have been pouring out of FOX News … talking about doing away with Obama, asking God to kill him.”  He calls them the American Taliban.

I know there is something funky in the water that the tea bagger types are drinking, but it’s not funny anymore.  People who are threatening harm to President Obama, either overtly or covertly,  are sick and over the top and they need to be treated as any other terrorist threat.  This was Schaeffer’s point.

The following is an excerpt of a transcript from a recent episode of the Rachel Maddow Show:

Rachel Maddow: . . . . On an actual cable TV channel, host Glenn Beck assessed Democratic efforts at health reform with equal intellectual rigor:

Genn Beck, Fox Host: America has spoken clearly, consistently, we are—excuse this analogy but I feel like it‘s true—we‘re the young girls saying, “No, no, help me” and the government is Roland Polanski.

Maddow: “Let his days be few; and let another take his office,” “Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.”  This is such strong language in secular terms about President Obama.  Can you tell me if this means something less threatening to people hearing this in a biblical context?

Schaeffer: No, actually, it means something more threatening.  I think the situation that I find genuinely frightening right now is that you have a ramping up of biblical language—language from the antiabortion movement, for instance, death panels and this sort of thing.  And what it‘s coalescing into is branding Obama as Hitler, as they‘ve already called him, as something foreign to our shores.  We‘re reminded of that.  He‘s born in Kenya—as brown, as black, above all, as not us.  He is Sarah Palin‘s ‘not a real American’.

Schaeffer: But now, it turns out, that he joins the ranks of the unjust kings of ancient Israel, unjust rulers, to which all these biblical illusions are directed who should be slaughtered, if not by God, then by just men.

So, there‘s a direct parallel here with Timothy McVeigh‘s t-shirt on the day of the Oklahoma City bombing in which he said that the tree of liberty had to be watered occasionally by the blood of tyrants.  And that quote, we saw again at a meeting at which Obama was present being carried on a placard by someone carrying a loaded weapon.

What we‘re looking at right now is two things going on. We see the evangelical groups that I talk about in my new book, “Patience with God,” enthralled by an apocalyptic vision that I go into in some detail there. They represent the millions of people who have turned the “Left Behind” series into best sellers.  Most of them are not crazy, they‘re just deluded.

But there is a crazy fringe to whom all these little messages that have been pouring out of FOX News, now on a bumper sticker, talking about doing away with Obama, asking God to kill him.

Really, this is trolling for assassins.  And this is serious business.

It‘s un-American.  It‘s unpatriotic.

And it goes to show that the religious right, the Republican far right, have coalesced into a group that truly want American revolution.  And if it turns out to be blood in the streets and death, so be it.  This is not funny stuff anymore.  They cannot be dismissed as just crazies on the fringe.  It only takes one.

You know, look at “The Boston Globe” article a few weeks ago saying that the threat level faced by the Secrete Service has gone up 400 percent, higher than any other time in 52 years for any president, Democrat or Republican.  These are no jokes.

And as I talk about in “Patience with God,” if you trace these origins back to this paranoid, evangelical group, of which me and my father, sadly, were not only leaders, but leaders in the ‘70s and ‘80s, the foot soldiers that people like Dick Armey and others are using now to push their political agenda onto health care, are also people that have within their ranks, people, such as the person who murdered Dr. Tiller and killed three police officers in Pittsburgh because they thought Obama would take away their guns.

. . . .

Schaeffer: And it goes to show that the religious right, the Republican far right, have coalesced into a group that truly want American revolution.  And if it turns out to be blood in the streets and death, so be it.  This is not funny stuff anymore.  They cannot be dismissed as just crazies on the fringe.  It only takes one.

You know, look at “The Boston Globe” article a few weeks ago saying that the threat level faced by the Secrete Service has gone up 400 percent, higher than any other time in 52 years for any president, Democrat or Republican.  These are no jokes.

And as I talk about in “Patience with God,” if you trace these origins back to this paranoid, evangelical group, of which me and my father, sadly, were not only leaders, but leaders in the ‘70s and ‘80s, the foot soldiers that people like Dick Armey and others are using now to push their political agenda onto health care, are also people that have within their ranks, people, such as the person who murdered Dr. Tiller and killed three police officers in Pittsburgh because they thought Obama would take away their guns.

. . . . . .

Maddow: And to be clear—I mean, over-the-top political criticism is as American as apple pie.  And incredibly intense criticism has been lobbied against George W. Bush and against every president that‘s gone before modern times.  But you‘re saying that there‘s essentially a religious inflection in the most extreme of the commentary against Obama, that sort—that‘s operating on a religious level, that‘s a signal to a religiously-minded audience.

Schaeffer: Absolutely.  Look, this is the American version of the Taliban.  The Taliban quotes the Quran and al Qaeda quotes certain verses in the Quran, in and out of context, calling for jihad and bloody war and the curse of Allah on infidels.

This is the Old Testament biblical equivalent of calling for “Holy War.”  Now, most Americans will just see the bumper sticker and smile and think that it‘s facetious.  Unfortunately, there are 22 million Americans or so who just call themselves super-conservative evangelicals.  Of this, a small minority might be violent, but the general atmosphere here is really getting heated.

And what surprises me is that responsible—if you can put it that way—Republican leadership and the editors of some of these Christian magazines, et cetera, et cetera, do not stand-up in holy hour (ph) and denounce this.

You know, they‘re always asking, “Where is the Islamic leadership denouncing terrorism?  Why aren‘t the moderates speaking out?”  Well, I challenge the folks who I used to work with, that I talk about in my book, “Patience with God,” and I would just say to them, “Where the hell are you?  This is not funny anymore.  And be it on your head if something happens to our president, if you are going to go around supporting and not speaking out against this stuff.

It‘s just not a question of who‘s doing it.  The bigger question is: Where are the people speaking out against these things?  I don‘t hear those voices raised in the evangelical fundamentalist community.  And until I do, I—and my opinion is, they are culpable.

One last thing on this, I think it points at the fact that Obama supporters, of which I have been one since he began running, have better start speaking up in support of him and not sniping at him all the time because he‘s not moving toward change as fast as we‘d like in every area.  This is serious stuff.  The chips are down.  He has real enemies.  Some of them are violent.

And as far as I‘m concerned, it‘s time to support our president, stand with him, and not only wish him the best, but as a believing Christian myself, pray for his safety in the face of these religious maniacs, who every day, you know, one time I was on your show awhile back and they were talking about, “Is he the antichrist?”  Now, they are asking he‘s an unjust ruler and they‘re asking God to strike him down.  There are very not many steps left on this insane path.

Read more here.

He’s got a good point that Obama needs support.

There was no neat conclusion.  You can’t brush this off and say, “Oh some people are just crazy.”  And I would venture this thought, that these people have nothing to do with a real religion. (A violent cult, yes).  These are people with mental illnesses, their own sicknesses, that are driving their behaviors.

The people even insinuating that our President should be hurt should be locked up, deported, or otherwise removed from society.   At the very least, questioned and watched very closely. (I assume someone is doing that).  I’m a huge fan of deportation — kick the violent, hateful, racist ‘Christian’ (or any other religion)  fundies out of the country.  We don’t want them here.  Then again, that brings up all sorts of other people we don’t want here either — Michele Bachmann comes to mind.  Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, etc.  These people and others like them (their followers) are terribly violent in their rhetoric and obviously with dangerous personality disorders.  Why are they in positions to influence people?  In all seriousness, why aren’t they being investigated?  Maybe they are.  That would be far more justified than Bush’s wiretapping of every American’s phones just for the hell of it.


5 comments to Claim: Christian Right Is ‘Trolling for Assassins’

  • Hi,

    As a Christian Bishop, I find this kind of garbage from any religious group to only degrade every member of that group. There are extremists (read idiots) in every group unfortunately. There are also a lot of good people in these groups that go unnoticed because they aren’t wild, off the wall zealots.

  • Part of Schaeffer’s point was that these good people aren’t speaking out and defending President Obama from these violent zealots and their rallies, tea parties, bumper stickers, websites, etc. I see them all over the place online. No one is denouncing them publicly that I’m aware of. They need to denounce their message, which is to harm or overthrow or even kill President Obama. These are outrageous messages, and yet I see support for these messages in the Christian community. They instead need to denounce it loudly and to tell the public that these people are not Christian and that they are not followers of any church except their own hateful political faction. Why aren’t so called church leaders doing this??

    Until that happens, certain types of religious people in the U.S. will continue to be looked at as cult members or people who have gone crazy with political ideology (think Michele Bachmann types) and that will reflect on everyone who says they are Christian. I no longer trust anyone who says they are Christian. (that started with George Bush).

    This hateful and anti-Obama messaging (much of it racist) is coming from self-professed ‘Christians’, no one else that I’m aware of.

  • Pat

    Mar Mathias Darin said: “As a Christian Bishop, I find this kind of garbage from any religious group to only degrade every member of that group. There are extremists (read idiots) in every group unfortunately. There are also a lot of good people in these groups that go unnoticed because they aren’t wild, off the wall zealots.” If they are not idiots or zealots, they need to denounce praying for Obama in this manner. These are Christian fundamentalists that think anything the Bible says is the word of God and therefor ‘right and good’. Not to denounce them loudly is condoning them and doesn’t making anyone ‘good people’.

  • @Pat: Well put. Religion should be removed from these debates, and people who use it as a “human shield” to come out in favor of whatever atrocities they want need to be publicly corrected by their peers and church leaders.

  • ST: I don’t remember the churches speaking out against any of the things you articulate. There were cases of some brave elderly nuns getting into trouble or rare reports of church reps probably acting on their own being hassled at airports because they did some anti-war things. I do remember people like Michael Moore being denounced by the self-appointed guardians of the ‘faith’ for having made that movie Fahrenheit Nine One One. Some of the guardians of the faith considered consensual sex between a so-called Democrat we all know and one of his interns as worse than starting a war of discretion that resulted in the deaths of countless thousands of people (in 2004). Now that number is much higher and even though the deaths of non-Amerikans mean nothing to these people, lots of US military personnel are now dead due to the darling of the christian right’s lies. The self-appointed guardians and leaders of the faith also made it a point to complain about how bad a non-Republikkkan was for spending so much time on a golf course or for going on holiday. 80 hour workweeks won’t satisfy them if you’re in the wrong party. It was okay for their holy leader to take more holidays than anyone previously had done in that job, but don’t let a non-Republikkkan take a break. I can’t remember the guardians of the faith ever criticizing their darling for not taking anything seriously such as the August 6th briefing which was ignored and their precious darling replied ‘You’ve covered your @**’ to the person who read it to him. He couldn’t be bothered to cut his vacation short to do anything about that, but he could fly back and forth because of the Schiavvo sideshow, much to the delight of the church people. I don’t remember hearing anyone from the churches complain about their christian leader reportedly sticking his head in a meeting when some of his people were allegedly trying to work out a peaceful deal and say ‘F*** Saddam. We’re taking him out’. Jerry Falwell or his publication did denounce someone about disparaging the Gipper because of a verse in the New Testament about honoring the ‘king’. This kind of verse never applied to any non-republikkkan in the churches that I heard about. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for the churches to condemn these nuts. The churches are allowed to prosper, rule and terrify people with their tales of punishment for not believing THEIR way. In return for the churches being allowed to prosper and sell vaporware, the churches have to toe a line set forth by the powers that be. Cross this line and the sect will find itself in trouble. You’ve seen this with some churches who endorsed non-republikkkan$$. They find themselves in trouble because of suspected violations of their non-profit status. If anyone ever violated that, certainly it would have to be Liberty Mountain, 700 Club, Crystal Cathedral or Focus on the Family. Hint: They don’t love Democrats. The churches are finding themselves in a situation where if they offend the wrong people, the income goes down. Maybe they’ll lose money if they denounce this behavior because maybe lots of their income is taken from people who think like this. A lot of these people don’t know history. You cannot prove that there was a historical Jesus Christ that is described in any Roman records. There are forgeries and fragments dating from after the supposed events, but that’s another story. If he did exist, a lot of his followers aren’t following in his footsteps. Don’t expect them to take time to study history, archaeology or Egyptology. The failure that the patridiot act remains is indicative of how it will be. I didn’t hear them complain about that. I did hear people say that they would be glad to let profiling occur because it wouldn’t happen to them because of their caucasian background and to let ‘them’ do whatever they have to do to protect their safety. Giving up a few freedoms was okey-dokey with these people. They’re proud republikkkan$$. The policies of so-called Democrats have not even been Progressive. No single-payer health care, no end to the wars of choice, no jobs program unless you count being a member of Fatherland Security or the military and no rush toward green energy which will take lots of hardware. The policies of non-progressives remain, but people complain about the ‘liberal’ or ’socialist’ agenda. What liberal or progressive agenda?

    If and when it becomes advantageou$$ to denounce this kind of behavior, you might hear something. Until then, don’t bet on it. If the church leaders offend the flock, the money will be even harder to collect.

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